It was a great buy and just the sound I needed

But I say that it's still a good buy, a you can always buy another without having to save up for a long time, and still get that great dark tone.

The 12" china cymbal is a best buy because of it's nice round price, but personally, I think it's a little too small to produce a full, rich tone

The 16" is also a pretty good buy, and sounds/feels great