Too many different versions of these damn things!

These things sound good and they do a solid job of isolating outside sound

These things isolate next to nothing while behind the kit

i took good care of them, basically taking them on and off was too stressful for the fragile things

The band and the arms that attach it to the ear cups are made from the same brittle black plastic that I remember breaking on a few cheaply-manufactured things I've owned in the past

These things aren't secured with screws or anything, it's sheer force that's keeping them from separating

The only thing that these headphones are good for is the isolation

Extreme isolation implies one thing while actually providing less than extreme isolation.